in jakarta indonesia from 67-71, ages six through 10? >> guest: just about, yes. about four years. >> host: while you were in jakarta, david maraniss, you found a school where barack obama went to school. >> guestschool. this is where barry first attended school in jakarta. [inaudible] >> is that his exact chair? >> yes. spent this is marty who was there, so he is our witness of the chair, right? so we are getting barry said? -- sit? in the corner in the back? in the middle in the back, okay. [inaudible] >> host >> guest: the statute is outside the second school he went to. of little barrie. shorts, short sleeve shirt. the second coal have much more money than the first. the little catholic school, he actually went to to to enacted, and then the family moved. his father got another job working for union oil and got more money. >> host: was that put up -- >> guest: that was put up a couple years ago. very controversial. they were people there who didn't want that statute to go a. obama, i think he ran for president of indonesia would win